bob, i have to tell you, i wrestle with it, nsa stuff bothers me, it is not in my opinion constitutional. this seems to be constitutional. >> 65 drop due to this. give you some facts. 4.4 million stops in new york city. 4.4 million, over 50% of the people in new york city. >> of a 10 or 12 year period. >> 1.5 per 4.4 million guns were found, that's it. everything else they didn't find anything. of those, 1 were black, 1.1 hispanic, 3% white. 4.4 million people, you came up with that little stuff and that was the reason you dropped crime 65%? get out of here. it is unconstitutional. show me one thing they did. >> chicago and philly don't have stop and frisk, chicago has a murder rate four times new york, and philly about triple. >> does that help you wrestle to the right conclusion? come on. >> if you wish to adopt chicago's tactics over new york city's, you're an accomplice to mass murder. >> if you believe this stops crime. 4.4 million, and 1%? >> they confiscated so many illegal weapons and don't put them back, it helps decrease arrests, crimes aren't committed. >> you know why, they'r